Comments on: Pay £600 Or Get Sued For Downloading Dream Pinball 3D! http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/ Paranormal & Marketing Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:55:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: admin http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-744 admin Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:44:57 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-744 My friend has still heard nothing back from ACS Law and I've read that they've never successfully sued anyone in the UK at the time of writing despite sending out hundreds of letters. My friend has still heard nothing back from ACS Law and I’ve read that they’ve never successfully sued anyone in the UK at the time of writing despite sending out hundreds of letters.

]]> By: admin http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-631 admin Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:57:04 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-631 Well, it's now September 16th 2009 and my friend still hasn't heard anything further about this threat of action. If my friend does still hear from them in future, I will update immediately, but it's now looking increasingly unlikely the more time goes by. Well, it’s now September 16th 2009 and my friend still hasn’t heard anything further about this threat of action. If my friend does still hear from them in future, I will update immediately, but it’s now looking increasingly unlikely the more time goes by.

]]> By: admin http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-591 admin Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:22:20 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-591 So far my friend hasn't had any follow up to his threatening letter. So far my friend hasn’t had any follow up to his threatening letter.

]]> By: admin http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-491 admin Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:00:56 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-491 The above site above has been moved to http://beingthreatened.yolasite.com/ as I suspect the original site was taken down due to complaints, although this isn't verified? We only write opinions at PJCNET and we are without prejudice to ACS Law or any other organisation. We believe it's right however for opinions to be heard from all sides. If ACS Law or anyone else wants to respond, we would be delighted to include it or please comment as we are always willing to listen to both sides of any debate / opinion. Also PJCNET cannot be held responsible for the information contained on external links, visit them at your own risk. Our <a href="http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/legal-disclaimer/" rel="nofollow">legal disclaimer</a> applies. The above site above has been moved to http://beingthreatened.yolasite.com/ as I suspect the original site was taken down due to complaints, although this isn’t verified? We only write opinions at PJCNET and we are without prejudice to ACS Law or any other organisation. We believe it’s right however for opinions to be heard from all sides. If ACS Law or anyone else wants to respond, we would be delighted to include it or please comment as we are always willing to listen to both sides of any debate / opinion. Also PJCNET cannot be held responsible for the information contained on external links, visit them at your own risk. Our legal disclaimer applies.

]]> By: admin http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-470 admin Sun, 17 May 2009 21:22:05 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-470 THANKYOU "beingscammed" for this very useful information: Here is the important link for anyone who has received this letter: http://www.beingscammed.com THANKYOU “beingscammed” for this very useful information:

Here is the important link for anyone who has received this letter:

http://www.beingscammed.com

]]> By: beingscammed http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-468 beingscammed Sat, 16 May 2009 22:17:30 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-468 You are not alone, stand strong. I have also been sent a similar letter from ACS, and I am active in letting people know as much as possible in these circumstances. There are many thousands of people involved, with ACS persuing the courts to release more names in batches every few months. We have put together a website as a focul point at beingscammed (dot) com where we are collating all the relevant media articles, links to the ICO, SRA and how to find your MP. We have also put together a fairly good Letter of Denial which you are free to use. We are not lawyers, but just various people in the same boat who have pooled their talents and knowledge and who continue to add more info each day. Above all we are simply trying to put a stop to all this bull. You are not alone, stand strong.
I have also been sent a similar letter from ACS, and I am active in letting people know as much as possible in these circumstances. There are many thousands of people involved, with ACS persuing the courts to release more names in batches every few months.
We have put together a website as a focul point at beingscammed (dot) com where we are collating all the relevant media articles, links to the ICO, SRA and how to find your MP. We have also put together a fairly good Letter of Denial which you are free to use.
We are not lawyers, but just various people in the same boat who have pooled their talents and knowledge and who continue to add more info each day.
Above all we are simply trying to put a stop to all this bull.

]]> By: admin http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-457 admin Mon, 11 May 2009 10:35:23 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-457 Thank you for your comments so far, I've now got the law company from my friends letter, it's "ACS: LAW" and the letter is titled, "Infringement of Copyright: 'Dream Pinball 3D". The letter starts as follows: "We act as solicitors for Topware Interactive Inc, the owner of the rights in a computer game sold under the name 'Dream Pinball 3D' ("the Work"), which was released in the United Kingdom on 16 May 2008" It goes on and shows evidence which allegedly includes my friend's IP address, the date and time and the P2P Client / Protocol which is "UT 1.7.7.0" (Utorrent) in this case. I cannot confirm if the IP is correct as my friend has changed his ISP since the alleged date of download which is roughly a year ago at the time of writing. The letter continues to say, "This evidence was placed before the High Court and they ordered the internet service provider, BT, to identify the subscriber on it's network associated with that IP address on the date and at the time in question. The ISP provided your details as the subscriber." They want £606.44 for compensation of losses to the firm when the game costs around £9 to buy which doesn't include solicitors costs as they say this is £0 in the breakdown. The letter states that "all or part of the Work was made available from the names internet protocol (or IP) address(es) using the following P2P protocol(s)/client(s), for the purpose of being downloaded by third parties.". Well I know for a fact that my friend doesn't share using peer 2 peer and even if he did download this software, it's freely downloadable from their own website, it only needs activating as far as I know. When you download using most Torrent sites however it does seeds as you download it although the entire file is only available for an instant if you stop the client when the download is complete. My friend however doesn't like Pinball games and doesn't remember it at all. The website of ACS Law is http://www.acs-law.org.uk as given in the letter. Incidentally I've just searched for a Torrent for Dream Pinball 3D and there's loads of people still sharing the software Please continue to comment if you have had any experience of this matter or any opinions. Many Thanks. Thank you for your comments so far, I’ve now got the law company from my friends letter, it’s “ACS: LAW” and the letter is titled, “Infringement of Copyright: ‘Dream Pinball 3D”.

The letter starts as follows:

“We act as solicitors for Topware Interactive Inc, the owner of the rights in a computer game sold under the name ‘Dream Pinball 3D’ (”the Work”), which was released in the United Kingdom on 16 May 2008″

It goes on and shows evidence which allegedly includes my friend’s IP address, the date and time and the P2P Client / Protocol which is “UT 1.7.7.0″ (Utorrent) in this case. I cannot confirm if the IP is correct as my friend has changed his ISP since the alleged date of download which is roughly a year ago at the time of writing.

The letter continues to say, “This evidence was placed before the High Court and they ordered the internet service provider, BT, to identify the subscriber on it’s network associated with that IP address on the date and at the time in question. The ISP provided your details as the subscriber.”

They want £606.44 for compensation of losses to the firm when the game costs around £9 to buy which doesn’t include solicitors costs as they say this is £0 in the breakdown. The letter states that “all or part of the Work was made available from the names internet protocol (or IP) address(es) using the following P2P protocol(s)/client(s), for the purpose of being downloaded by third parties.”. Well I know for a fact that my friend doesn’t share using peer 2 peer and even if he did download this software, it’s freely downloadable from their own website, it only needs activating as far as I know. When you download using most Torrent sites however it does seeds as you download it although the entire file is only available for an instant if you stop the client when the download is complete. My friend however doesn’t like Pinball games and doesn’t remember it at all.

The website of ACS Law is http://www.acs-law.org.uk as given in the letter.

Incidentally I’ve just searched for a Torrent for Dream Pinball 3D and there’s loads of people still sharing the software

Please continue to comment if you have had any experience of this matter or any opinions. Many Thanks.

]]> By: badoosh http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-454 badoosh Fri, 08 May 2009 17:05:56 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-454 I received this same letter, i pressume thousands of people got the same one.From looking at other forums this has happened to loads of people for the last couple of years involving the same game but with different lawyers. My letter has been shredded and i will wait to hear if they intend to sue later, im not worried, ive never heard of no crappy pinball game so why should i worry. Looking into past stories of this scare tactic these companies obviously did very well by taking money from worried vunerable people. They try to scare you by saying they have proof but i challenge any lawyer to get a conviction from an innocent in this country. If you have had an unsecured wireless router in the past or somebody has hacked your account this could be the problem, the IP address on my letter and the one on my pc are totally different too. Anymore correspondence from these jokers will be binned too. I received this same letter, i pressume thousands of people got the same one.From looking at other forums this has happened to loads of people for the last couple of years involving the same game but with different lawyers. My letter has been shredded and i will wait to hear if they intend to sue later, im not worried, ive never heard of no crappy pinball game so why should i worry. Looking into past stories of this scare tactic these companies obviously did very well by taking money from worried vunerable people. They try to scare you by saying they have proof but i challenge any lawyer to get a conviction from an innocent in this country. If you have had an unsecured wireless router in the past or somebody has hacked your account this could be the problem, the IP address on my letter and the one on my pc are totally different too.
Anymore correspondence from these jokers will be binned too.

]]> By: lambert360 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/2009/05/08/dream-pinball-3d-copyright-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-453 lambert360 Fri, 08 May 2009 12:23:13 +0000 http://www.paranormal-marketing.com/?p=311#comment-453 I recieved a letter about downloading dream pinball via psp the other day I just ended up throwing it away as I hate junkmail, scams etc. But just typed "dream pinball" into google wondering if this game even exists and foand this page, Quite interesting really! Still not worried at all, I just hope they send me another letter as I want a closer look at it this time before I throw it away again. I recieved a letter about downloading dream pinball via psp the other day I just ended up throwing it away as I hate junkmail, scams etc.
But just typed “dream pinball” into google wondering if this game even exists and foand this page, Quite interesting really! Still not worried at all, I just hope they send me another letter as I want a closer look at it this time before I throw it away again.

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